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Mark Molina

Anyone here every been approached by SAS int. - They ask for money from the Candidates :(

I was called after I responded to a career builder ad! SAS Int did not have any specific position for me and the one they had posted was for a non existent position. They wanted 5000 to 7000 dollars to help advise me with what they call "Career Management" They also take a commission from the client. There have been BBB complients, they have a BBB rating of C+
This seems very slimy to me! What do you all think? JUST FYI
Also how do you all feel about job postings that stay up forever? Wouldn't good recruiters and companies be able to fill those slots in an economy like this?

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Watch out for some of these companies. It is one of the new scams out there that certain companies are claiming to have jobs available and claiming to have certain programs that will advance you in your career. 95% of them are fraudulent. A true recruiting company will take money from their client side and find places for a good qualified candidate with no fees.
I don't blame you for being cautious on this one.. good luck!
Justin, very true i worked in staffing since the 1998! I was shocked that they try or do that! Thanks for your post nice meeting you as well!
Mark
This happens more in a down economy! I am surprised by the number of scam sites we are seeing on the internet but guess that we really should not be that surprised. Justin is correct...95%+ are fraudulent and really nothing more then a way to capture candidate information which will end up being sold to third parties.
SAS is a headhunter, not a staffing firm. To avoid paying fees if you're the candidate, go ahead and link with Staffing Agencies or temporary/placement groups. Frontline Source Group and companies like us will never ask candidates for a dime! Talking to agencies will help you in your job hunt and will provide more networking opportunities.
As far as the job postings go for head hunters - chances are if you reply to their posts, they are not real jobs. They are sourcing opportunities for those types of companies to find their leads.
Mark
On this, my latest round with the agencies I have had a couple of what I thought were promising chances and after refining resending and lengthy discussions I fid myself mailing agents only to find that oops they filled the job the day before and they were so sorry for not letting me know.
Cheers Ian
Yes, I am in the Dallas, TX area. Where are you? Years ago, when they first opened I wound up down there and actually went and talked to them; it was so long ago but it seems like they had called me about a position and then tried to sell me on a package of some sorts. I remember the sales rep had this thing about dice and some analogy of sorts. I told them I was not interested, although I did find them pretty amusing. Overall they do a pretty convincing presentation, which I guess is why they are still around. About a year ago they called again--I think I must have responded to a job posting (not realizing who they were), so I just told them I had talked to them before and wasn't interested. The woman who called sounded very professional. Then they called me again a couple of months ago again and I told them the same thing I always do.
My philosophy is that the job seeker should never have to pay to find a job; the only costs they might incur should be interview clothes, haircuts, and maybe a resume writing service (although some of the schools, churches, social groups, and outplacement companies supplied by former employers will do this for no cost to the job seeker).
However, I have seen throughout the years, especially when the economy gets bad, individuals paying fees to secure a job. In fact years ago, it was very common practice for agencies to charge both the candidate and the employer fees to secure a position. I heard many stories from individuals who felt they had been wronged. That was always a warning signal to me. I have never paid a fee as a candidate or accepted a fee from a candidate. The employer always paid the fee. After all, the candidate is the product and the employer is the buyer.
Very well put! Maybe I was around when that was common practice, I am in Plano, Tx DFW market! I would be open to moving though, though like this area well enough!
Let me add to your comments, I have noticed some smaller job boards adding a new feature RECENTLY to enhance the apply process to job posting for the candidate to pay 10 to 20 dollars a month for a subscription. Not sure what this will do, because thank goodness these sites also let you apply free to the job with a basic apply option.
I had a somewhat similar experience with SetFocus. The ads look like a job posting with the regular skills requirements. They even send you a lengthy skills test link. After taking the test, you finally hear from representative only to find out that they are wanting you to sign up for class(es) that are over-priced (the one they mentioned to me was $19000). They were really nice though. If you want to borrow the money, they would allow you to work for $20/hour on some client's project to pay back the money used to train you. :)

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